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Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« on: September 16, 2022, 01:18:27 PM »
Following Andrew's job on his JCB leaky front axle, I needed to do a similar job to replace the steering knuckle/trunnion bearings on my tractor which were making for some interesting steering choices (occasional inability to turn left at all!!).

Started on the tractor trunnions on 14th Sep There are three jobs needed:
1    Replace right track rod end.
2   Replace bottom & top trunnion bearings on left front hub.
3   Replace at least one of the U/Js on the left driveshaft (double U/J type).

So find a reasonably flat spot of grass within electric & airline range of the garage, leaving room for cars to get out to the lane, jack up front left side & insert axle stand, remove wheel & have at it. Always surprises me just how heavy tractor wheels are &, of course, anno domini increases their mass exponentially.


Job 1
Easy peasy? Not! This is a drag link that joins the two front wheels with a long threaded tube across the front. One side taper broke easily, the other (of course with the wheel still on, did not. Neither of my ball joint separators would fit despite my hopeful modifications I had to borrow one from a friend just down the lane. OK track rod off & into garage. I should have realised from the welded up left T/rod end that there would be problems. It took a 4ft scaffold tube on the 24 stilsons plus heat (I only have propane) to shift the knackered rod end &, of course, marred the thread on the tube so the new end would not thread in. The thread is 27M x2 & I didnt have a tap, plus the  tube is too big to fit the mandrel of my M250, so no good there. Close inspection revealed that only the end couple of threads were ruined, so I just cut off the end of the tube & spaced the new rod end accordingly. Locknut was similarly damaged so not refitted. There is no chance of the track altering in use, since the other side is welded to its rod end. So Job 1 complete & only took a day!
 


Job 2 

I knew this would be difficult & I wasnt wrong! The trunnion arms have jack-off threaded holes that line up with the locating dowels, so once you remove 4 M16 bolts on each, you just insert bolts & jack off the housings yeah! Top jacking holes were full with 40+ years of rust & sh1t, but eventually proved to be M14X2. Fortunately I had the tap, so cleaned the threads , filled with Duck oil & on to the bottom ones. These, naturally were a different size (why?why?why) & were 12mm no problem there though the threads were only about 3/8 long & not in the best shape. Found some M14 & M12 bolts & turned the ends down so the threads didnt mar when jacking happened. Inserted the M12s & carefully made a start no chance! Even with hand pressure on a 9 length spanner (prob. less than 60 lb ft Im old) the threads in the holes stripped (Ill rethread to M14x2 once I get the blighter off). So after just about 7 hours over two days I finally have the bottom trunnion off. The welch plug that seals the top of the bottom bearing had rotted away, so I was able finally to get a punch onto the top of the peg & drive the housing down sufficient to get chisels in each side to remove the thing. There was only one position of wheel rotation  & angle that allowed the punch to pass the double U/J (what are they called?BTW) & I knew it would mar the end of the peg, but needs must etc. Would have been easier if I had someone to hold the punch in position, so I could use both hands on the small sledge, but some wire & a scrap of shaped steel to prevent the bottom of the punch slipping (not 90 deg, more like 75 to vertical is the best I could achieve).
 
 


Right on to the top one, jacking bolts are secure but I really dont think theyll work time for more propane & a large copper hammer on the steering lever to see if sideways impact will do it. No sign of a gap appearing to date.
 

 
Update at close of play 16Sep: Got the top trunnion housing off the jacking bolts worked with the addition of more heat & a succession of chisels. However the top peg  is separate from the housing (its all one on the lower item) & that is beating me at the minute. There is a central hole tapped M12X1.5 to be used with a bespoke puller, but Ive cobbled up a puller using a standard (but small)  puller beam & using 2 of the M16 securing bolts to jack up the beam against the central  M12 bolt. So far Ive got it to move out about so I think about another to go, but its tight as hell all the way. Ive quit for today & left it under tension for tonight soaking in duck oil. Two days on this so far ho hum.
 
 



Will try heat in the morning, then I just have the outer races of the top & bottom bearings to remove ( may need to weld a bead on them, but access will be OK once huge heavy wheel centre, hub & epicyclic reduction gears are safely lifted away with my pickup crane. Then its out with the driveshaft  to do the U/Js, but that should be easy bench work once Ive found the circlip to release the shaft which is hidden behind a couple of inches of grease/cowshit/chaff/earth etc.


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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2022, 05:19:42 PM »
It all sounds horribly familiar  :bugeye:

When I eventually got my trunion mounts off  and was ready to refit them I slavered the pegs with copper-slip. Hopefully make it a little easier for the next poor sod !

Hope that the rest goes well.
Andrew Mawson
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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2022, 10:04:58 AM »
Sat 17th - Dismantling Done!

Top peg came out with some heat & judicious use of copper hammer whilst jacking evenly. As you can see the bearing was lubricated with a mixture of dirt & rust  with the obvious result. I've never seen bearings as bad as these, yet under load all you could see from the cab was about 3mm of movement when the steering ram operated! I seriously think there was never any grease in these from new (there is no way to grease them once assembled) - reassembly will see plenty!
There was some burring on the axle & hub castings, but 5 mins with the grinder & a file sorted that. Bottom peg (though the worst bearing) needed just a touch with a file to remove my drfit marks which had mushroomed the edge a little, Top peg was worse: inner race had cracked & the peg was gouged for about 40 deg needed some weld then trued up in the lathe.
As I thought the circlip holding the driveshaft in was a pain to get at - needed large circlip pliers with  a 45deg bend & very little leeway between the U/J yoke for access, but it came in the end. Dismantling over, all I need to do now is renew the U/Js bearings seals, plugs & refit it all - can't be as bad as the removal - it'll all be clean & new! I should have ordered hub oil seals & an 85X3mm  O ring for the driveshaft, so I'll source those in UK next week.

Top Peg Out:-


Nearly there!:- 


Heavy Hub! :- 


Dismantling Done :- 


I really hope the other side is good enough to last the winter (haven't checked it yet) 'cos I can't face doing that straight away - it'll have to wait until the shooting season is over!


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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2022, 10:16:16 AM »
Forgot to say that the outer races came out easily after I welded a bead all around each. Amazingly, I managed to avoid welding either race to the housing, which was nice.
For anyone who doesn't know the trick the method is to lay a good hot bead of weld all the way around the bearing race & then allow to cool. The race shrinks back smaller after this abuse ( I must admit I don't know quite why?)  & can be drifted out easily - some even fall out by themselves. Even these came out with just a couple of taps with a medium hammer.

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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2022, 11:31:28 AM »
The weld bead, being laid down in the molten state is at it's maximum expansion. As it cools and solidifies it shrinks so is shorter. Hence smaller circumference and easier to remove.
Andrew Mawson
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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2022, 04:08:52 PM »
Hi All,
Beware of this method if the bearing is housed in an alloy housing that is not very very substantial
I was asked to sort out a little Sachs engine where some previous moron welded the bearing races to remove them
The heat distorted the engine cases making them virtually scrap :doh:

John

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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #6 on: September 22, 2022, 12:01:24 PM »
I'm happy to report that the job is all done & the right hand knuckles seem sound, so no need to repeat the torture for the other wheel for the forseeable future :clap:
Seals came yesterday so started the refit this morning. The U/J joints were quite difficult & needed quite a bit of tapping to free off the circlips, which came out easily enough, but two of the bearing cups needed a reasonable force on the press to shift. There is a large 90mm circlip that holds the driveshaft into the axle. Removal was quite tricky due to lack of access, & replacement was also a fiddle having to hold a powerful circlip closed whilst working blind with a screwdriver in the other hand, it took an oath or two but got there in the end.
Actually replacing the taper rollers & refitting the bottom & top pegs was a breeze, though fairly greasy! I'd bought several new shims so set up was no trouble either.
Tractor feels like new now, though the steering assist ram is leaking, so resealing that will be next, though that'll be mostly bench work to be done on a rainy day.
I found a few similar jobs on Youtube  on JD 6000 series tractors & a few on JCB 3cx s too, but nothing specific for the Zetor- however the principles are the same & everyone seems to have the same struggles as Andrew & me with the removal of the top & bottom pegs.

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Re: Zetor 7045 Front hub Steering & Driveshaft Repair
« Reply #7 on: September 22, 2022, 12:54:23 PM »
Glad it's done with a successful outcome  :thumbup:

I also know the feeling of relief when it's all done and you can put the tools away finally !

We have had guests for lunch today but I spent the remainder of the afternoon trying to sort out my sand blaster with fair results, but I'll post that in the appropriate thread when it's all done and dusted
Andrew Mawson
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