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Offline philf

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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #25 on: August 17, 2021, 10:58:41 AM »
 Good to see another instalment of this story.

Are you keeping the variable speed drive as-is? If so, how does the control set the speed?
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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #26 on: August 19, 2021, 09:59:01 AM »
I'll keep the variator as is. I have the little control board to set the speed. However, I'll use a VFD as the main speed control, as it will replace a significant number of large control relays thus taking up less cabinet space and wiring. Basically I'll have the VFD, the Variator and the backgear. Total overkill, but easier just to leave that variator in than replace it with a drive belt. I am not sure how I will implement the control logic in LinuxCNC. The speed range between the VFD and the Variator totally overlap.
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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #27 on: August 19, 2021, 11:57:32 AM »
Is the variator manually adjusted?

If so you could normally leave the variator in the upper end of its' range and use the VFD to get the spindle speed you want.  Just don't run the motor rpms below 20%-25% of the full motor speed or you'll run into motor cooling issues.  Below that speed the motor's fan won't be turning fast enough to move enough air to cool the motor.

The only time you'd need to adjust the variator would be if you needed a spindle speed that was above the back gear range, but that spindle speed put the motor speed below the 20-25% of full motor speed.  If that happens, then crank the variator into the lower end of its' range.  That would allow the VFD to bring the motor rpms up - hopefully high enough to cool the motor.

Of course this all assumes that you'll be running the motor long enough for the heat to build up enough to damage the windings.  Or, that you'll be running the motor at this low speed for short periods, but with insufficient time between motor cycles for the heat to dissipate.  In that case, the heat could again build up enough to damage the windings.

I installed an a 900HP compressor a few years ago that took over 25 seconds to come up to speed on start-up.  It accumulated so much heat in the motor that we weren't allowed to try starting it more than 3 times in a 24 hour period - with at least 1 hour between each start-up attempt.

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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2021, 02:47:13 AM »
The way I think about it now (this might change) is that the work to hook up the variator is so limited, that I  may as well.

Whether I just put a variator up and down button on the control panel and use them to manually bias the speed range like you discussed, or implement  a more complex logic in LinuCNC and have it control the variator, VFD and backgear... I so far havent decided.

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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2021, 06:03:14 AM »
Here we go again...
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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #30 on: September 19, 2021, 06:01:33 AM »
Here is the latest...
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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2021, 07:51:29 AM »
Here is a pneumatic follow up.
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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #32 on: October 03, 2021, 07:53:57 AM »
I am waiting for pneumatic fittings, and so started the electrical cabinet.
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Re: Schaublin 125-CNC retrofit to LinuxCNC and Mesa cards.
« Reply #33 on: October 10, 2021, 07:16:47 AM »
I know a lot of people swear by Plasma cutters. I just want to swear at it.

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