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Heads up a 25% V.A.T. coming our way in the US.

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PTsideshow:
Now I know why they made those mad max movies! to get us ready to go back to the good old days.


--- Quote ---I think a lot of people over here would starve to death. Especially those that only know how to use an I-phone
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That is the sorry truth, All my adult life at work or home people are always so amazed with what I know and can do. When they ask how do you do it. My stock answer is I can read, and there are so many interesting books out there, and there is so little time!  :lol: :lol: I'm sure you guys get the same thing.

It never stops amazing me with the reaction to my library, or tools. When a teacher told me after they seen my library. Man I haven't read a complete book since college.  :doh:

Or the number of times one of my kids teachers, told them to quite lying because your father can't do that. Or that I had taken 5 year old's on balloon flights and chase and recovery trips. Or the people they met with me at Circus's, or other events I did.
It got to the point I had to go to the superintendent of the system, And have them send the principal and union head to my house so I could stop the teachers harassment of my kids and their projects.

Of course it helped that I worked in the a different educational system, and new that most will back down when they are wrong and stupid to boot! Plus the superintendent came too and when all 12 books the teachers said didn't exist were on the table. and the photo's et all the problems just stopped and every teacher had to apologies to my kids in the classroom of students. That was the superintendents idea, as she said to reinforce the lesson for the teachers  :lol: :lol: :lol:

It does show on some forums and boards that we as an enlightened civilized world are in trouble with some of  nit wits out there and still breathing.  :borg:

I've got some good stuff in my material stash. So as Bogs stated I'm ready to barter!  :thumbup:
glen

Bernd:
Glen,

I have to admit that when I first signed on this forum I thought you were a bit eccentric with all the books you posted in the "Bookshelf". I thought "Is this guy nuts or what". But you are 100% right. People don't read books any more. I've noticed some of the younger crowd is fast to ask for a "link" to info. I'm sure they're dissapointed when you point them to a book.

I've also run across what you have said about people when they ask "how did you do that" or "that's impossible to do" and then when you show them or explain they look at you all dumbfounded.

So I say the same thing I'm ready to barter to. Knowledge is a wonderful tool against the dumbies out there.

Bernd

Just went and checked the Bookshelve and you have about 220 books listed. Now that's a large sum of info to have.

bogstandard:
I have to plead ignorant when it comes to modern day books, I think the youngest one in my engineering ones is from the 70's, but a lot from the 30's & 40's. Picked up over the years and from car boot sales costing a few pennies each.

If I want to read modern day, what I call 'garbage' engineering, then I will look it up on the web. That is because it relies too much on modern day whatzits and whirlygigs with bells on. I do admit to using such items, but if you haven't got them, what do you do?

That is why I read old books, they give you the old techniques before all the modern day gizmo's came along, and that is one of the reasons I have little trouble machining difficult jobs. It becomes second nature to always go back to the roots of engineering.

Anyone who lives fairly local is welcome to borrow a few old books to read, just leave a couple of fingers as deposits for their safe return.

John

John Hill:
Glen, the thing about an effective consumption tax such as VAT is that it applies to everyone and everything and to gain full advantage all other taxes should be scrapped.  Then you are left with a system which has very low administrative overheads, requires very little enforcement and not much opportunity for cheats.

Darren:
Yes I agree, in an ideal world that would work.

Trouble is we don't live in such and VAT is just another tax on the hundreds already stealing from us.

The government is the biggest earner in any transaction, even if no tax is applied for the money will end up being spent on a taxable item soon enough. The trick is how many transactions you can make before that happens. In reality not many if any at all.

Oh course it's low cost to implement, they get us fools to do all the work for them for free. makes you feel like a right mug.

I once read that if you took away the taxes you only needed 11 pence in the pound, I believe today it's become less.

Petroleum companies, as rich as they are, get less than 1p per ltr, I wonder who gets the other 109 pence ?

Then they tax us for not being green, hogwash, just more profits.

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