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AdeV:
--- Quote from: Brass_Machine on July 04, 2017, 07:24:54 PM ---I can move it over to a dedicated physical server for an additional $20 a month (on top of what I pay now) and get 1TB of storage.
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Before you go the physical route.... I am sure you've already thought of these, but having recent experience of both:
- Computer hardware, as you know, goes obsolete extremely quickly. What seems like a monster machine now, will be mainstream in 2 years time, and a slowcoach in 4.
- That's assuming it even gets to be that old... Built-in obsolescence is likely to kill at least one component in that 4 year time period, and if it's the hard-disk, then as you know, pain all round.
- OS upgrades are a nightmare, especially Linux. And even an LTS system only has a 5-10 year lifetime...
Of course, there are advantages to having a physical machine: You'll never be throttled within the box itself, you can pretty much guarantee you get 100% of the resources to yourself, and so on.
But IMHO, a high-end VM provider has more advantages than disadvantages compared to a physical server. e.g. I recently needed to upgrade my Linode machine, as it was getting low on resource. An extra $10/month, 5 minutes downtime, and it was back up and running on the same IP address, but now with twice as much CPU, memory & disk space... Impossible with a physical machine!
Anyway, just my 2 cents.
vtsteam:
--- Quote from: awemawson on July 05, 2017, 02:04:48 AM ---Eric I for one am happy to help towards extra costs, and I'm sure that's true of a fair few others.
Steve, although it's good that you are able (as a moderator) to upgrade your links to point to another source, don't forget that the majority of Madmodders cannot alter a post after a short period has elapsed following posting, so that is not an option for many.
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Sorry to hear that, I wasn't aware of that. Preventing users from editing their posts is not a software feature that I think is beneficial.
Brass_Machine:
--- Quote from: vtsteam on July 05, 2017, 07:54:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: awemawson on July 05, 2017, 02:04:48 AM ---Eric I for one am happy to help towards extra costs, and I'm sure that's true of a fair few others.
Steve, although it's good that you are able (as a moderator) to upgrade your links to point to another source, don't forget that the majority of Madmodders cannot alter a post after a short period has elapsed following posting, so that is not an option for many.
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Sorry to hear that, I wasn't aware of that. Preventing users from editing their posts is not a software feature that I think is beneficial.
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We did that because we had a user quit the forum and delete every single post they had... thus rendering a lot of threads useless.
Brass_Machine:
--- Quote from: AdeV on July 05, 2017, 04:47:58 AM ---
--- Quote from: Brass_Machine on July 04, 2017, 07:24:54 PM ---I can move it over to a dedicated physical server for an additional $20 a month (on top of what I pay now) and get 1TB of storage.
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Before you go the physical route.... I am sure you've already thought of these, but having recent experience of both:
- Computer hardware, as you know, goes obsolete extremely quickly. What seems like a monster machine now, will be mainstream in 2 years time, and a slowcoach in 4.
- That's assuming it even gets to be that old... Built-in obsolescence is likely to kill at least one component in that 4 year time period, and if it's the hard-disk, then as you know, pain all round.
- OS upgrades are a nightmare, especially Linux. And even an LTS system only has a 5-10 year lifetime...
Of course, there are advantages to having a physical machine: You'll never be throttled within the box itself, you can pretty much guarantee you get 100% of the resources to yourself, and so on.
But IMHO, a high-end VM provider has more advantages than disadvantages compared to a physical server. e.g. I recently needed to upgrade my Linode machine, as it was getting low on resource. An extra $10/month, 5 minutes downtime, and it was back up and running on the same IP address, but now with twice as much CPU, memory & disk space... Impossible with a physical machine!
Anyway, just my 2 cents.
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If I were to own the physical machine, I agree. You have some good points. But, considering we are only leasing the machine, upgrading or migrating to a new host is fairly easy when the old host becomes obsolete. Fortunately most servers these days have a shelf life of at least 5 years. And since we won't own it, repairs/SLAs are the responsibility of the hosting service.
I have to compare the cost of adding storage to the VM as to the cost of the physical machine.
The good thing is, this is what I do for a living.
Eric
vtsteam:
--- Quote from: Brass_Machine on July 05, 2017, 10:11:57 AM ---
--- Quote from: vtsteam on July 05, 2017, 07:54:14 AM ---
--- Quote from: awemawson on July 05, 2017, 02:04:48 AM ---Eric I for one am happy to help towards extra costs, and I'm sure that's true of a fair few others.
Steve, although it's good that you are able (as a moderator) to upgrade your links to point to another source, don't forget that the majority of Madmodders cannot alter a post after a short period has elapsed following posting, so that is not an option for many.
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Sorry to hear that, I wasn't aware of that. Preventing users from editing their posts is not a software feature that I think is beneficial.
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We did that because we had a user quit the forum and delete every single post they had... thus rendering a lot of threads useless.
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That happens occasionally on fora, but I think the loss of old posts by a person who does not want to remain in the community is not an unsustainable loss. New threads will arise, in fact should arise to replace the old ones in a form of natural attrition and progression. Fora themselves can get old and stale if they depend too much on past threads.
I've seen a rise elsewhere of irritated responses like "already been done!", "so bored with the same old projects", "why not do it like Fred did?" "yet another buttonhook?" "I already did that in 2007" etc.
I think a forum is healthy when new projects and new enthusiasm aren't dampened by past acievements. Magazines at their height were a form that depended on disposal of past issues so they could continue and address new readers in a fresh manner.
By and large most people don't delete their threads. They might delete a post where they got into an argument, after time is passed and they reflect cooler heads. That's a good thing. I don't think archiving old disagreements serves anyone.
And there are many positive reasons why posts should be edited -- a change in approach, improvement in method, a safety concern, a realization you want to clarify an earlier explanation, or as is happening now, with the Photobucket issue the need to change an old or dead link or update a photo hot link.
Finally, I believe a forum belongs to its owner, but user content belongs to its users. To me that's fundamental. I think all of the positives about being able to edit posts far outweigh the negatives of the loss of a few disgruntled user's posts. If that's the way someone feels, why would a forum really want them in there anyway? let go. Everyone is replaceable. New people and new ideas and projects are a good thing.
Life ebbs and flows. There are losses and gains in everything.
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