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Will_D:

--- Quote from: philf on January 04, 2016, 06:30:10 PM ---Will,

Avros and ICL.

Which AVRO? Woodford or Chadderton?

Woodford is (was) about 5m from me and ICL the same distance in the opposite direction. I know people who have worked at both.

The AVRO Heritage Museum has just opened at Woodford. I was lucky enough to get a sneak preview of the museum on the day the Vulcan gave its last fly-past.

Phil.

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Hi Phil,

Avro's (1973 to 1977) was in Chadderton, but as I worked on the Woodford DO's time sheets system I used to get across town now and again. Of course the best time was the day before the airshow! Used to blag a ride on the worksd mini-bus to Woodford, have a quick meeting and then watch the Battle of Britain flight flying in and also the foreign teams who didn't know the field doing their rehersalls. And for this I got paid!

ICL (aka Buttlins with computers) was in West Gorton (home of ICL mainframes) from 1977 to 1991!

Btw: My ML7 came out of Woodford (legit I am assured !!)

There was one upstairs gallery in Chadd that had a line of Super 7s but was not part of the training school!

awemawson:
"ICL (aka Buttlins with computers) was in West Gorton (home of ICL mainframes) from 1977 to 1991!"

And prior to that it was Ferranti West Gorton - the early ICL machines were a different physical construction of the logic of Ferranti Argus machines.

The ICL 1900 shares the same function set and op code format  (XFMN)as the Argus 500

philf:

--- Quote from: awemawson on January 09, 2016, 01:45:42 PM ---
And prior to that it was Ferranti West Gorton - the early ICL machines were a different physical construction of the logic of Ferranti Argus machines.


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Ferranti - another huge local company that all but disappeared. Just Googling I see that Sebastian de Ferranti died in October 2015:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11939157/Sebastian-de-Ferranti-businessman-obituary.html

Other big local companies either gone or almost gone: Cravens, Avro's, Simon Carves, Mirrlees, Fairey's.

All these took on large numbers of apprentices to be subjected to untold cruelty!

I did a student apprenticeship and I wasn't treated too badly. (Or, if I was, I was too thick to realise!)

Phil.

philf:

--- Quote from: John Rudd on January 03, 2016, 06:41:00 AM ---A bucket of sparks or some sky hooks were the order of the day.....

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John,

An old post I know but I was at Trafford Park, Manchester the other day and look what they've got...



A mythical Sky Hook.

Phil.

RobWilson:
Thats a canny sky hook Phil  :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rob

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