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Jonny:
Time will tell since they all copy each other how many other producers have done the same thing as VW/Audi, Skoda, VAG Group.

Depends on mileage and journeys taken as to whats better both have disadvantages.
My general travelling would be slightly in favour of diesels but if had one would have to have a petrol as well.
Diesels take longer to warm up and wont get the benefit until they have, sons lighter ex Fabia VRS took 11 miles from cold thereafter beneficial in one run ave 44mpg to my 38mpg.

Some petrol have dual mass flywheels mine has one. I am constantly checking and hearing for things and aint cheap £1200 in parts. Solid clutch conversion £600+ thereafter just simple clutch replacement quite cheap. All it is is for emissions. Friend had a Kia 4WD thing 66k dual mass packed in £1800, equally as pricey a new front windscreen wiper motor.
Can confirm my old petrol SE22 GM chain driven engine as fitted to 7 other global producers inc Subaru, Fiat, Alfa did not have dual mass as stated above and scrap car at 137k.
New turbo for mine upgraded £284, beats lesser power diesels in excess of £1100.

Tax not an issue cant understand why people make a mountain out of a mole hill, think mines £294 so what divide that by 52 weeks that's only £3.73 or 8 miles travel per week.

Gorgeous sound Loply one on my list the C63 in black of course.
Arbalist:
We did look at a diesel many years ago but as the salesman explained, unless you drive a lot of miles each year or plan to keep the vehicle for a long time the increase in cost means you'll never get your money back in increased MPG. We did the math and he was quite right. Diesel engines are heavier as well so tyres don't last as long on FWD cars according to the fitter at my local tyre shop. It's time for a rise in duty on diesel fuel I think.  :D
DavidA:
Jonny,

..weeks that's only £3.73 or 8 miles travel per week.

That's expensive.

My Citroen Diesel Saxo ( and the 1.9 Diesel ZX) will do 10 miles to the litre around town all day.

That's ten miles for £1.06 at todays local prices.

Dave.
ieezitin:
Im in the states

I have a 2006 1.9 TDI VW Jetta four door, I get 50MPG up hill or down hill, thats a 13 gallon tank = 650 miles at $2.39 per US gallon.$31.07 per fill up

I have 240,000 miles on it, i have replaced 2 timing belts at $1100 a time, 3 sets of tyres at $650 a time, I change the synthetic oil every 10,000 miles at $70.00.

in its life i have had to replace the electronic key to it at $500, the dash display broke yet i have never replaced I don't care..two batteries at $110.00,  I paid $19,500 for it and its worth now $8500. I am 53 years old I have full comp insurance on it at $70.00 per month

My point is its paid for itself....... and now its paying me.. no petrol car could have made that return, gas prices have been higher in that time but its all relative, I wont sell it i would be a fool too.

i read the posts i would like to know why the European diesels are different, in mileage and repair costs.. I live in Maryland, in the summer it reaches nearly a 100 deg regular and most winters there is a six week period where it regularly hits minus 20 deg and never had a problem starting it in both ex streams, this car was assembled in Mexico but parts are from Germany (I think).. any reasons?


Anthony.
Arbalist:
I'd like to know what tyres you're using as 80,000 miles per tyre is amazing.
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