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DavidA:
MODENG,

But what year is it ?

Dave.
philf:

--- Quote from: Arbalist on May 04, 2015, 04:09:20 PM ---http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913674/Council-charge-diesel-car-drivers-extra-100-park-outside-homes.html

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Which numpty has dreamt this one up?

Cars parked outside homes don't create air pollution - it's only when you drive them.

A quote from the article: "Taxi drivers, plumbers, builders, and anyone who uses their vehicle in their business will be exempt from paying the tax"

So those who do huge mileages (and are possibly more likely to have the emissions tweaked before and after an MOT) are exempt?

Wonderful.
DavidA:
Yeah,

All the above,  except taxis, work through the day and park up at night. Those who only use the car to go to work then park up get to pay to park at night at home. Those who run around all day don't.

Must be a London thing.

Dave
Arbalist:
From a recent report:



Carmakers Braced For European Crackdown on Diesel Vehicles

The French government, which owns about 15 per cent of carmakers Renault and PSA Peugeot Citroën, has pledged to “progressively” ban from 2015 diesel vehicles — which account for two- thirds of car sales in the country and almost two-thirds of Renault and Peugeot’s European sales.The November announcement by Prime Minister Manuel Valls — in which he admitted the promotion of diesel cars had been a “mistake” — was followed last month by a promise from Paris mayor Anne Hidalgo to ban these vehicles from the city by 2020.

France’s stance highlights a big shift taking place in the European debate over vehicle pollution. For a decade or more, policy makers have focused on targets to reduce carbon dioxide emissions, and this prompted carmakers to invest heavily in diesel vehicles because they emit less CO2 than the petrol equivalents.

But now the focus is turning to air quality, which raises far-reaching questions about the viability of diesel vehicles. This is because they emit harmful pollutants such as nitrogen oxide that can cause serious respiratory problems.

Cities are under pressure from the European Commission to tackle pollution. Studies from the International Council on Clean Transportation, a research body, and King’s College, part of the University of London, have highlighted the scale of emissions from diesel vehicles and linked them to as many as 60,000 deaths a year in the UK.

London has vowed to act on these findings. Under plans for an “ultra low emission zone” in the city, the capital’s traffic congestion charge would be almost doubled for older diesel vehicles by the end of the decade, and Islington council is set to introduce a parking fee for the most-polluting cars — “to encourage a move away from diesel vehicles”. (See below)

Cities in Norway have discussed similar anti-diesel measures.

Shadow Environment Minister: We Messed up Switching Motorists to Diesel

Attempts made by the previous Labour government in the U.K. to get millions of people to switch from petrol cars to diesel vehicles in order to "save" the planet was a mistake, Barry Gardiner, shadow Environment Minister has admitted. "Hands up - there's absolutely no question that the decision we took was the wrong decision. But at that time we didn't have the evidence that subsequently we did have," Gardiner said during an episode of Channel Four's Dispatches, called "The Great Car Con."

At least ten million Britons are driving diesel cars, a trend which was encouraged by tax breaks by Gordon Brown back when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer. Brown said back in 1998 that diesel vehicles will attract less vehicle tax than petrol options due to their "better CO2 performance." Brown reduced vehicle tax for all vehicles with low CO2 emissions in 2001, giving company car buyers, responsible for half of new purchases, a reason to make the switch.

The policy was a response to the 1997 Kyoto treaty, which was created to cut greenhouse gases. "It was right to move away from vehicles that push out CO2, but the impact is a massive public health problem," said Gardiner. "The real tragedy is after we set up the committee on the medical effects of air pollution and it reported back in 2010 we've had five years that this government has done nothing about it."

Government ministers were warned more than 20 years ago of the risks, according to Professor Roy Harrison, professor of environmental health at the University of Birmingham. "I chaired an advisory committee in 1993 who was advising government on urban air quality issues and we recognized that there might be future problems associated with the increasing uptake of diesel passenger cars," said Harrison, according to The Independent.

The documentary will also show how drivers are exposed to higher levels of diesel pollutants than cyclists and pedestrians. "When people are in cars if they've got windows closed and the air conditioning on, they probably think that they are actually immune from the emissions from the vehicles in front of them and in reality that's not the case because the gases penetrate so easily that they will get into the cabin of the vehicle and depending on the ventilation of that cabin they may actually build up to much higher concentrations," said Professor Frank Kelly, Chair of the Committee for the Medical Effects of Air Pollution, according to The Independent.

 
doubleboost:
I was always under the impression that "road tax" was used to repair & build the roads
At least the new super low emission vehicles don't damage the road surface  :Doh: :Doh: :Doh:
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