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| vtsteam:
--- Quote from: NeoTech on February 23, 2015, 01:03:13 PM ---..... - apparently all pebbles and such is imported and are of danish or czech origin. --- End quote --- Is this what we're talking about having no rounded stone in the entire nation? :scratch: |
| NeoTech:
Well i think you need to know a bit about our country before you getting into that. We do have a lucrative market in crushing existing granite deposits into makadam, and we do have alot of sand and other earth materials for sale. But what we are talking about here is pebbles, washed stones out of water areas, lakes, rivers and such. Almost all the water in sweden is protected from exploitation. Companies are literally not allowed to dig in them. And so arent we as citizens either. So making a product out of that resource is basicly illegal. And well the punishment doesnt really fit the crime. Even if you are a landowner arent you allowed to dig into or change these waters. Or actually really exploiting them. Because of one law. That here is called "Allemansrätten", its kinda unique, but it make all of nature accssible to anyone, even other peoples owned land. But it also comes with the responsibility to not interfere with that nature for profit or exploitation.. This governs alot of our thinking regarding enviromental issues. |
| vtsteam:
Neo I wasn't thinking of removal from streams themselves, but streams move and leave deposits. This is what is normally used for stone. My state is highly environmentally conscious, and unless land is posted, like your laws, it also is available for recreation. Similarly it would be illegal to dredge rock from a stream here as well. But a landowner or gravel operation would be permitted to remove stone from areas where a stream no longer flowed. The main reason I suspect you are having difficulty finding rounded stone is that crushed uniform stone is more valuable for concrete than round -- it isn't economically useful. Your particular purpose is flexible deadening of vibration, which is quite different to concrete purposes. But I bet if you tried you could find someone who has access to a legally available small quantity you need on his property. I mean the amount you want is tiny in commercial terms. |
| NeoTech:
Yeah you are prob. right. Just takes crapload of time to get hold of anyone. And you are correct my volumes is way to small to be interesting for most commercial companies. They can and will sell me 20kg bags of the stuff for a crazy overprized sum of about 30 euros a bag.. And then i need about 45 bags of the stuff in assorted sizes and grades. Just need to keep looking, or take a vacation to germany, the land of opportunity - and cheap industrial supplies it seems. =D |
| Henning:
--- Quote from: NeoTech on February 24, 2015, 11:13:05 AM ---Yeah you are prob. right. Just takes crapload of time to get hold of anyone. And you are correct my volumes is way to small to be interesting for most commercial companies. They can and will sell me 20kg bags of the stuff for a crazy overprized sum of about 30 euros a bag.. And then i need about 45 bags of the stuff in assorted sizes and grades. Just need to keep looking, or take a vacation to germany, the land of opportunity - and cheap industrial supplies it seems. =D --- End quote --- I may be misunderstanding something here, in which case i appologise, but smooth river rocks must be available? Here's a page from Norway: http://www.maxbo.no/Produktkatalog/Uterommet-(Hage-og-fritid)/Heller-og-belegningsstein/Dekorstein-Arctic-Elvestein-25-40-20-kg/p/867546?gclid=CJXdsaGL-8MCFaLOcgodMm8A2g 20 kg. for ~10€. If you buy a lot a better price is a given. I also know this is a byproduct any place where they take out a lot of sand from old seabed and here at least you can go there with a trailer and fill it up for not much money? |
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