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Pete W.:
A neighbour of mine has built a replica steam traction engine, no particular prototype and I guess about 6" to the foot.  It's not propelled by steam but by a small diesel engine from a ride-on mower.  He's fitted it with a 12 volt to 230 volt inverter to power a disco smoke generator so smoke comes out of the chimney (funnel ??) and he has a whistle, though a compressed air whistle sounds different from a steam whistle.  The paint job and general finish are amazing.  It's been a labour of love but, in a frank moment, he once described it to me as a 'toy'.  (Some toy!!)

[I tried to put in a photo or two but I can't get Photobucket and I can't work out how to embed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!]

Here's the point: he's taken it to lots of steam rallies and model engineering events.  He was apprehensive about the sort of reception he might have got from people but says that the full size steam folks have been very welcoming and appreciative.  The model engineering community, on the other hand, have been very snooty and dismissive.  He included a reference to 'rivet counters'!
doubleboost:
I would think the people who don't like it have built nothing
The bloke who BUILDS a little oscilating engine
Gets more respect from me than the bloke who SAYS he has built a Stuart triple
As long as you are having fun
S. Heslop:

--- Quote from: doubleboost on September 29, 2014, 06:19:42 PM ---I would think the people who don't like it have built nothing

--- End quote ---

I don't think that's always the case. I think it's more down to why people are building stuff. Model making looks quite romantic, and is partly about showing off abilities, which attracts pompous people who want to show off more than just enjoy building a thing.

I remember when I was a kid watching a TV show that had some old lady model maker who was really stuck up her own behind. She'd make working engines, test them on compressed air, and then fill them with epoxy so they'd never work again, insisting that they 'weren't toys to be played with'. It really horrified me at the time since she seemed like a lady who knew more about engineering than I ever would in my lifetime. Although thanks to the internet and websites like this, I can now just laugh at how silly she was.
John Stevenson:
Well I actually moderate on there and have to agree with you to a point.

They have many members but it's always the same few mole skin trouser brigade that's welded to armchairs that make the most noise. Roughly abbreviated to the flat earth society.
I know for a fact that many members don't like me on there as a moderator, there has even been calls to have me removed. So guess what in typical non PC, non H&S, non painting and decorating and non ironing they can all go f@## themselves.

It is all about helping people, the worse are the model engine brigade with there look at me , see what I've done, pat on the arse type posts that must put more people off than anything else.

A while ago I even started a Bodgers Lodge post showing some of the $hit and crap I have to put back in service every day. It came about because one former member emailed who he though was a friend and complained that I ran a back street bodging shop. Unfortunately that 'friend' wasn't  :thumbup: and I got a copy of the email.

OK I admit and do so freely, many have even visited my place and I admit that it isn't the most pristine establishment but hey I do turn some good work out, enough that the bastards won't let me retire and play.

However what this thread did was actually get fresh faces out of the woodwork saying things like "Great, real world engineering " " keep it up " etc
bp:
I visit both sites with varying degrees of interest.
For what it's worth I always read the posts of JS, especially the Bodgers Lodge.  Doubleboosts videos are also a class act, and always good value, sometimes for humour, always for tech. interest, sometimes for both.
The people that float my boat are the rivet counters and the pompous gents who will argue about the shade of sky blue pink that Myfords painted their stuff in November 1943.
As someone said, we do it for fun, and forums like this can spread the fun far and wide.
cheers
Bill
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